Talking Metal #427 with Metal Mike and Zakk Wylde

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This episode of the podcast features 2 interviews with 2 great guitar players.  First up, starting at 8 mins in, it’s Metal Mike Chlasciak discussing the new Metalworker album, Rob Halford, Jim Breuer and the song American Metalhead.  Check out the Metal Mike Facebook page.

Then at 44 mins into the podcast, it’s a new interview with Zakk Wylde discussing the new Black Label Society DVD “Unblackened”, the Bringing Metal to Children book, Ozzy, Slash, Axl, A-Rod, doping in the NFL/MLB and Zakk’s wife in the Shatner roast video. A small portion of the 25 min interview has been transcribed below.

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Zakk Wylde gives a 25 min interview to Talking Metal which includes the follow:

Talking Metal: We haven’t seen you in a couple years, How’ve you been man?

Zakk:  I just can wait to talk about metal.

Talking Metal: We are here today to talk about the new Unblackened DVD and double CD. I had the chance to check it out and it’s really amazing.

Zakk:  I appreciated. If you hear any of that noise in the background that is the Black Label sweatshop we have here and we have them writing all the new hit songs for the next, upcoming Black Label studio album. Next question.

Talking Metal: Here is the thing, some people might hear “Unblackened” and think, “what is this? An acoustic record?” But it is not acoustic, it is full on electric but it is just that some of these songs lend themselves to a less heavy vibe. Right?

Zakk:  Yeah, yeah without a doubt so some of the uh, obviously mellow songs just uh…, You have electric solos and stuff like that and power cords and stuff like that. Actually they’re kind of like the renditions that are on the record, you know so what I mean?  As opposed to a stripped-down thing where I’m sitting behind the piano playing a song without the drums, strings and all that stuff.  It came about because we got approached to do another DVD with Eagle, we had Boozed, Broozed and Broken-Boned with the Detroit chapter and then we did Doom Troopin over in Europe so instead of doing another heavy one because the Black Label family is always asking, they are like “when are you clowns can it do the mellow ones because we dig the mellow stuff?’ We will do Dime’s song live and just another mellow song, Spoke in the Wheel or something like that but they are like “when you can into an evening just the mellow stuff”?  So that is how that came about and that is why we put this thing together.

Talking Metal:  And this is two separate releases, right? It’s a DVD and then a CD release?

Zakk:  Yeah right, you have one coaster for your beer in the other one for your shot of whiskey whatever the hell else to drinking and you can get blasted into oblivion while you stick this CD and DVD on and treat your body like the amusement park that it is.

Talking Metal:  What do you think about A Rod?

Zakk:  I just thought it is kind of weird.  Didn’t he just go through this 4 years ago when the Yankees won the World Series?  Remember he came out and said “I tried it for awhile and it was wrong of me and I shouldn’t have done it but I know this wasn’t making my numbers go up and it wasn’t like I was hitting the ball any further so I just stopped doing it.  Maybe I wasn’t even doing it right to begin with or taking the right stuff.  Who knows if it was even phony” and he goes “I am not on anything right now so whatever.”  And it just seemed like it was over.  It was like he came out and didn’t lie and everyone was fine with that.  Now all of a sudden they are going after him again so I don’t understand it.  I really don’t.  Put it this way, if he takes a piss test, blood test and a hair sample and there is nothing in his system then who the fuck cares?  Does anyone have any blood, hair or urine samples from whenever they thought he was taking it in 2001 and 2002?  It is like “no, we don’t have any evidence” then how can you put this guy in jail?  You don’t have the murder weapon, you don’t have any blood, you don’t have any evidence, no fingerprints.  OJ, they had evidence.  A Rod, they have no evidence.

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Talking Metal #426 – 2005 Stryper Rewind

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Mark and John remember the early days of Talking Metal with a look back on their 10th episode from 2005 which featured interviews with members of Stryper.  They also discuss John’s recent jam with Ace Frehley, Jason Hook and Bill Kelliher.  You can view it on John’s Facebook page.

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Talking Metal #425 – Talking Metal Live

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This is the podcast version of the live show from July 26, 2013.  Mark and Victor discuss Vivian Campbell, 1990′s metal and Metallica.

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Talking Metal #424 – Music Based Episode

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Topics include Talking Metal Digital, D.R.I., Xander and Love / Hate.

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Talking Metal #423

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This is the podcast version of the July 19th, 2013 live show with Mark Strigl and Victor Ruiz.

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Talking Metal #422 with Vivian Campbell

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On this epsiode of the podcast Mark and John welcome Matt Snow from Magnus Rising and Vivian Campbell. Vivian speaks about his time in Dio and his new Last In Line band.  He also provides an update on his health and Def Leppard.  The interview with Vivian starts at 29:45 into the podcast.  For a transcript of the first 3/4th of the interview see below.

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BELOW IS A TRANSCRIPT OF THE FIRST PART OF TALKING METAL’S INTERVIEW WITH VIVIAN CAMPBELL.  TOPICS INCLUDE DEF LEPPARD, THIN LIZZY, THE LAST IN LINE BAND’S AUG 3RD GIG IN CALIFORNIA, JIMMY BAIN, VINNY APPICE,  THE LAST IN LINE ALBUM AND TOUR, HEAR N AID AND OZZY OSBOURNE. TO HEAR THE FULL INTERVIEW CHECK OUT EPISODE 422 OF THE TALKING METAL PODCAST

Talking Metal:  I wanted to, first of all, check in with you on your health. A little over a month ago on your Facebook page you announced that you Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. How are you doing health wise?

 

Viv:  I’m doing very well all things considered, you know?  I am taking it as it comes and the treatments are doing their job and they are not adversely affecting me too much. I had to get a radical new hairstyle and it’s coming out fast still but other than that no real problems. The two or three days around the chemo treatments are a little rough but nothing I can’t handle.

 

Talking Metal:  I saw a picture of you on your Facebook page in front of the plane somewhere and I thought you looked great with the shorter hair.

 

Viv:  Oh yeah, in a few weeks it’s going to be no hair <laughs>, I am leaving most of it on my pillow in the morning. It is coming out fast. Anyway, it’s all good. I needed a grown-up haircut.

 

Talking Metal:  Right. You have been out playing with Def Leppard so you are obviously well enough to go out on the road with them.  I believe you’re playing upstate New York tonight.  How have the recent Def Leppard shows been going for you?

 

Viv:  The shows have been going great, ya know. It all happened a little haphazardly. We weren’t supposed to work this summer at all but we got offered a festival date in France and, um, we agreed to take that on and then of course the management and the agent said “while you’re over there, why don’t you play shows in Spain.” And then we went, “okay will do that” and then “we got this great offer from Scandinavia so why don’t you go up there and do a few shows and on your way back why don’t you…” It was kind of never ending so we had to draw a line under it at some date so, yes, tonight is the last show. We are at a place called Canandaigua in upstate New York. it is near Rochester. We’ve never played here specifically before. Were at the hotel and we are going to  head over to sound check in a while. That’s the story, it’s been going great. The band is sounding good but that is it for this year. We will be active again next year and in the meantime we might even get our proverbial finger out of our proverbial ass and write and record a few new songs. It’s long overdue.

 

Talking Metal:  That would be great. I wanted to get into your band Last in Line and talk a little bit about that and talk a little bit about your history with Dio.  For me and many other metalhead kids growing up in the 80s, those first three Dio albums were such an important part of our formative years and we all know that you and Ronnie were not on the greatest of terms post your time in Dio. Was his passing something that helped you maybe finally be able to revisit and rediscover how special the work you did with him actually was?

 

Viv:  I think so, yeah.  I don’t think that in and of itself was the only reason but I definitely think that contributed to it. I think that the fact that Dio as a band were no longer active and then I looked and I saw an advertisement somewhere for Dio Disciples, who as it turns out our going out and playing Dio songs and they are none of the guys from the original band and I thought why should those guys be doing it? I wrote those songs, I played on those records. The main catalysts for all this for me personally was playing with Thin Lizzy. I did a stint in 2011 for several months. Scott Gorham called and said “I know you’re in Def Leppard but do you fancy playing with Thin Lizzy for a while?” That was such a big, big thrill for me because Thin Lizzy were so important to me, so influential to me as a guitarist in my formative years when I was a teen, ya know the Jailbreak album, Johnny the Fox, Live and Dangerous, Black Rose, Renegade, Chinatown. Those records were very, very, important to me as a guitar player so it was a real thrill to be able to go on tour with Scott and Brian Downey and play those songs. It really kind of reignited a passion for me for guitar playing that I had kind of lost for a while, you know? Talk about Def Leppard, my gig with Leppard is very challenging to me as a singer, we’re on the mic every song and the guitar parts in an of themselves are challenging enough I suppose but not compared to the stuff I did in Dio or even later with Riverdogs. I kind of hadn’t really had to exercise that muscle for a few years with Leppard and then having to go out and play Black Rose every night with Thin Lizzy got me back into shape and I came off of that tour thinking this is what I do, this is what I wanted to do. I actually just called up Vinny Appice, Jimmy Bain and Claude Schnell and said hey do you want to get together and just play? So we did. We rented a rehearsal room for a few hours and we were in their planning for about 30 minutes and Vinny said “this would be even better if we had a singer.” He said “I know a great singer, a guy called Andrew Freeman, he only lives 10 minutes away, let me give him a call and see what he’s doing.” So about an hour later, Andrew walks in, I’d never met him, we say our hellos, he steps up to the mic and start singing and it’s just…  It blew our socks off.  It was so amazing. He has such a powerful voice and such a passionate range and yet he sounds nothing like Ronnie and he can really bring his own thing to this. So it kind of took it to another level, so we all kind of just looked at each other and said let’s do this some more, let’s take it to the next stage, let’s go out and do some gigs. I suggested, let’s call this Last in Line after the album and, um, so here we are. That was over a year ago. It is taken this long to get it together but we are finally putting the wheels in motion. We have some UK shows coming up in early August. We are going to do a warm-up show in Southern California on August 3rd and that will be our first outing. We are booked for a festival in Japan in October and were hoping to take it beyond that and do a more comprehensive tour of the states. It is great fun and it is great excitement to play those songs again and for me it was a big hurdle to overcome because for literally decades, for 20 plus years I did not even listen to those albums, never mind trying to play those songs. There was so much hurt involved in that situation for me and it left such a bad taste in my mouth that I didn’t even want anything to do with it but with the passage of time and maybe with Ronnie’s passing as well, that’s part of it, I certainly look at it in a very different light now. It’s my heritage, it’s Jimmy’s and Vinny’s. Jimmy and I wrote those songs with Ronnie. We made those records and we are out there reclaiming our heritage, basically.

 

Talking Metal: Right.  You guys have a site up, it is LASTINLINEROCKS.COM which we will link to in today’s show notes. Any discussion about what the actual set list will be?

 

Viv: Well, we haven’t completely finalized it yet but it’s basically going to pick itself. There are only nine songs on Holy Diver and I think there’s only nine songs on the Last in Line album too. The thing about this band was that the Sacred Heart album

was very difficult for us all. That’s when things really started to go wrong with the band and no one wanted to be in the studio with Ronnie. We would literally just come in and do our parts and we wouldn’t really hang where as with Holy Diver & Last in Line we were in the studio 24/7 and everyone was committed to making those records. So the Sacred Heart record, we don’t look upon it as favorably. We probably won’t play too much from that.

 

Talking Metal:  Over the passage of time those first two records have become such classics among the metal fan base that they are probably what people want to hear the most anyways.

 

Viv:  Well, exactly. If we are doing our own headlining shows we are going to have to play, need to play about a hour and a half at least so we are going to need to play basically everything off those first albums. We will for sure play everything off of Holy Diver and probably the majority of Last in Line and a couple from Sacred Heart.

 

Talking Metal:  Now when you go back in time and think about first teaming up with Ronnie Dio, I wanted to ask you about Ronnie’s status in Black Sabbath. Tony Iommi mentions in his book that Ronnie was actually working on what would become the Holy Diver album while he was still in Black Sabbath, Ronnie & Vinny for that matter. Is that how you remember it?

 

Viv:  When we first got together Ronnie had two songs.  He had Holy Diver, the title track itself and he had Don’t Talk to Strangers so yeah I suppose Tony’s right in that regard because he didn’t offer those songs the Black Sabbath. Ronnie was keeping them for himself but that’s definitely all we had. The band first meant in London in a rehearsal room in October 1982 or maybe September 1982, somewhere around then and then about a month later we relocated to LA and that is what we started writing the rest of the album.

 

Talking Metal:  Holy Diver is such a classic album and you mentioned you will be playing almost every song, if not every song off of that album which is amazing. What about Last In Line?  That came out in 1984 and just exploded, selling over 1 million copies. What are some your favorite songs off of album?

 

Viv:  Evil Eyes is a hidden gem off of that record, I always thought that would do a bit more. The title track, Last in Line, that did set the tone for it and it was one of the early ones, it was one of the first ones we came up with. Once we had that under our belt it was smooth sailing for us. We knew we had this epic title track for the record and, uh, other songs were actually finishing one we were in the studio. I remember I Speed at Night was one that we cobbled together actually in the studio towards the end of the album. I don’t know there’s a lot of great songs on that record, you know? But probably the title track is the standard, for me especially.

 

Talking Metal:  When you were with Ronnie would play Mob Rules, Man on the Silver Mountain. Do you envision playing those songs in the set list?

 

Viv:  I don’t think would be legitimate for us to do that. Obviously the original Dio band we played Man on the Silver Mountain, Stargazer, Long Live Rock ‘n Roll. We played Mob Rules, Heaven and Hell & Children of the Sea. We kind of filled out our Dio set with those songs. Those were legitimate enough for us to do cause Ronnie was there and he had been in those bands but without Ronnie there I don’t think it’s very legitimate to play Sabbath or Rainbow songs so we won’t be doing that.

 

Talking Metal:  What are your memories of the Last In Line tour? You guys did a super, super long tour for that record. You took out a lot of bands that later would explode. Twisted Sister, Queensryche and Dokken. Any memories of the opener bands from that tour?

 

Viv:  Yeah, I remember certain shows more than others. I specifically remember touring with Dokken. I actually just saw Jeff Pilson the other day and we were reminiscing about that. The whole production for Dio had gone to a different level. Ronnie was always big on presentation and a stage set and whatnot. Even Holy Diver we tried to do something but with Last in Line he had a bit more money to spend on it in a bit more time to put it together and he came up with the big old pyramid.  For the first time we started using lasers and pyrotechnics and stuff. It definitely had taken it to a whole different level. On the Last in Line tour we went from playing theaters and opening for other people to headlining arenas in the states. It had definitely been a step up for the band, you know? It was rather a long tour. The band was really on fire, that is something I remember about those first two tours. The chemistry within the band was so good and it was so tight. It was very, very magical on a musical level and then unfortunately the wheels started to come off from there on out.

 

Talking Metal:  I guess it was after Last In Line, you wrote a song with Ronnie and I believe Jimmy called Stars which was known as the Hear N Aid project.  As a kid that was such an amazing moment in heavy metal history, seeing all our favorite hard rockers and heavy metal guys get together for I guess what would have been the music video and the recording of that.  Any memories of when you shot the music video and had so many different people from so many different bands there?

 

Viv:  Yeah, I remember that well.  I remember be exhausted.  It was really hard work putting all that together and contacting all these people.  I didn’t know them and I was calling, I remember talking to Jon Bon Jovi. In the end we didn’t get him for one reason or another but I had never met the guy in my life, I just happen to track down his phone number and I called and I talked to his mother and I talked to him.  The same with everyone who was involved, I didn’t know any of these people.  I tracked down their phone numbers with the help of a publicist we were working with at the time and ya know, begged, steal and barrow.  I was on the phone for weeks and weeks leading up to it to try to get people to commit to do it and um…  It all basically happened out of a joke. Jimmy and I were at a radio station called KLOS and we were doing an interview about something and the We Are the World, the whole Michael Jackson had come out around then and the DJ said to us that it was a real shame that no one from the hard rock community was invited to participate in it and we were like, “yeah, yeah, we get no respect, blah, blah.  We just sort of jokingly said we should do our own and Jimmy didn’t miss a beat.  He came out with the title Hear N Aid. ..

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Talking Metal #421 with Kiko and Ken

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This episode features an interview with the great guitarist Kiko Loureiro.  Kiko is known for his work with Angra and is currently promoting his new solo album which is called Sound Of Innocence.  Check out Kiko’s new music video for the song Conflicted here on You Tube.

This episode also features Ken Pierce from Piercing Metal. Ken is a long time friend of Mark and John and live and breaths NYC rock and metal.  Jon Simpson and body guard to the stars Chris Kiszka.  Topics include Dio, Vivian Campbell, U.D.O., Nevermore, Winter Sun, Sean Baker, power metal and thrash metal.  This episode was recorded at Duke’s in NYC on 19th Street!

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Talking Metal #420

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Here is the podcast version of last Friday’s live show with Mark Strigl and Victor Ruiz.  Topics include Dio, Stephen Pearcy, Queensryche, Black Veil Brides and Talking Metal Digital.

Note:  We had some issues with Victor’s mic.  Sorry about the drop outs.

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Talking Metal #419 – Jeff Pilson

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On this epsiode John and Mark welcome Jeff Pilson.  Interview topics include Kill Devil Hill, Steven Adler, Ronnie Jame Dio, Mark Roson, Dokken, George Lynch, Jason Bonham and Brian Tichy.

Other podcast topics include Brian Tichy’s dad, Go Andes and Talking Metal Digital.

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Talking Metal #418 – Lydia Criss

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On this episode of the podcast Mark and John are joined by Lydia Criss. They discuss Kiss, Lydia’s Sealed with a Kiss book, Peter’s book, New York City and Mick Campise.

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